Gipsy and Cheetah -  FAQ

 

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1. Question: What regulator do I need for a Gipsy or Cheetah

2. Question: Are the side outer panels of a Gipsy or Cheetah glued to the wooden frame?

3. Question: Can you recommend a good sealant for the flat roof?

4. Question: What type of edge sealant should I use?

5. Question: I have small hole in the roof, what should I do?

6. Question: What thickness is the aluminium on the roof?

7. Question: Are there any official UK Karmann Dealers?

8. Question: I have wet walls in the toilet area. Was the caused by using the shower?

9. Question: I removed the covers from the seating and found white wadding type stuff stuck to it. What is it and what is it for?

10. Question: Why can I buy new wall panels?

 

 


 

Question. What regulator do I need for a Gipsy or Cheetah

 

Answer. If the vehicle was imported from Germany, then you need a 50mb regulator rather than the UK version which is 28mb. See here: www.socal.co.uk

Propane Regulator 50mb

Nozzle outlet suitable for 8mm ID hose
Approved & certified to EN12864
1.5kG/hr 21kW capacity

Suitable for all Calor Propane cylinders

NOT SUITABLE FOR STANDARD UK INSTALLATIONS

FOR USE WITH GERMAN CARAVANS, MOTOR CARAVANS

 

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Question. Are the side outer panels of a Gipsy or Cheetah glued to the wooden frame?

 

Answer. No. The outer panels are stapled to the wooden frame. Most of them staples are likely to be rusted off.

 

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Question. Can you recommend a good sealant for the flat roof?

 

Answer. I've heard that isoflex High performance liquid rubber from B&Q about 30 (which drys to a solid rubber sheet) is good, but I can't recommend it until I've tried it!

 

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Question. What type of edge sealant should I use?

 

Answer. A non-setting bedding sealant is best. There is one produced by carafax which retails at 2.49 for a tube (3rd Oct 2008).

 

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Question. I have small hole in the roof, what should I do?

 

Answer. In the short-term get a sheet of aluminium and stick it over the area using sikflex, which is available in various bonding strengths/waterproof properties until a more permanent fix can be made.

 

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Question: What thickness is the aluminium on the roof?

 

Answer: 0.5mm - 0.6mm. (0.6mm will do)

 

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Question: Are there any official UK Karmann Dealers?

 

Answer: Yes, Geoff Cox in Denby, Derby is the official UK Karmann dealer.

Geoff Cox
122 Derby Road
Denby
Derbyshire
DE5 8LG
Telephone 01332 781562
Facsimile 01332 781451

 

But don't expect him to hold any spare parts for your 1980-1990 Gipsy or Cheetah!

 

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Question: I have wet walls in the toilet area. Was the caused by using the shower?

 

Answer: That damage is not caused by the shower or the vent it is caused by the sealant breaking down on the roof corner cappings. You will find the other side is probably the same. If you ever go on the roof of your Gipsy you will see where water always sit in the two corners just before the overcab. You really need to remove the outer side panels to effect a proper repair. You can then reseal the corner cappings properly and replace all the rotten wood not just what you can see there. You will also find that rot has spread to the frame work behind the wardrobe and maybe the overcab frame work and the lower framework. Have a good feel of the woodwork in the lower rear corners of your overcab, be prepared to get covered in sealing goo. It is always best for Gipsy/Cheetah owners to park your van with the front in the air so all the water runs off the back of the van.

All of the skins on Gipsy's are held on the same . Basically once you have unscrews the corner capping's, skylights and other bits the roof will just peel of. It is also lightly glued on to with some kind of pink spray on glue, it takes reasonable effort to break the glue contact, but two people should be able to peel it back OK. The outer panels are stapled to the wooden frame.

If the roof is rotten than you will find the glue is long gone anyway. There's a big difference between the roof construction and the van sides and that the whole roof is covered in ply (cant remember how thick just pull your skylight out to find out).

As for sealants for the side capping's and windows you use a non setting mastic, don't use Sikaflex on your windows, hook up point etc (anything plastic) as they will be a nightmare to remove again. Go round the edge of every thing with a thin bead of Sikaflex 221 once its all back together, you then need to leak test your whole van.

 

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Question: I removed the covers from the seating and found white wadding type stuff stuck to it. What is it and what is it for?

 

Answer: The white wadding is called polyester wadding. There are many reasons for it, the main one being to give it a bit of softness (the luxury look!!) also foam can be rather square looking when just covered in material (flat without shape). The  outer cover can also 'stick' to the foam making it pucker when you sit on it (not a nice look). Another reason is it will fill out the mattress (push into all the corners etc) obviously a quality installation. You can get it in many grades from a 4 oz up to 14 oz.

 

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Question: Why can I buy new wall panels?

 

Answer: Heres a supplier for Wall Boards amongst other things

http://www.magnummotorhomes.co.uk/Category.aspx?CategoryID=0dbbbc66-f88c-4450-9b84-9d8fb69cea62

 

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